Photographer, manager and producer Cherie Nutting talks about Paul Bowles, and Master Musicians of Jajouka

“The image stops time. It is the first primordial thought. We are here. Music is pre - image...It’s vibrations form both the image and all parallel realities...”
Cherie Nutting:  Moroccan perfume of desert
Cherie Nutting was born under the Taurus sign in Massachusetts, USA. She is a photographer and musical artist manager, known for her photographs of expatriate author and composer Paul Bowles. Bowles and Nutting collaborated on the book "Yesterday’s Perfume: An Intimate Memoir of Paul Bowles" (2000). The book, an impressionistic collage of many of Nutting's photographs and reminiscences of her close 13-year friendship with Bowles, and which also includes some of Bowles' journal entries, new essays and previously unpublished writings.
She studied photography at the New England School of Photography and at the New York School of Visual Arts. In February 1989, Nutting married the Moroccan musician Bachir Attar, and she became manager for both the Master Musicians of Jajouka Featuring Bachir Attar. Nutting also helped to arrange logistics and Tangier location for the June 1989 recording sessions of the 'Master Musicians of Jajouka Featuring Bachir Attar', and the Rolling Stones, for the song "Continental Drift" on the Stones' Steel Wheels album.
Cherie Nutting was an additional music coordinator for Bernardo Bertolucci's film adaptation of The Sheltering Sky and David Cronenberg's film adaptation of William S. Burroughs' novel the Naked Lunch. As official photographer for her husband's Master Musicians of Jajouka group, she contributed photos to the album booklets and covers for the group's album releases during the 1990s. Nutting also contributed photographs to Bachir Attar's '92 solo album. Her photos were included in a 1998 book about life in Tangier called The Tangier Diaries 1962 - 1979, by John Hopkins.
Nutting continues to manage the Master Musicians, helping to arranging tours and performances for the group, as well as her photography.

Interview by Michael Limnios


Cherie, when was your first desire to become involved in the photography?
I first became interested in photography as a small child. Both my father and grandfather were amateur photographers and they gave me cameras when I was very young. My parents and grandfather documented everything so I have over 100 yrs of photographs of our family history in slides and b & w photos.
I also have many of the Ad Men years in the 1950s as my Dad worked with Holiday Magazine...these were the real “Madmen” unlike the TV series we now see on the USA. When my Mother and I sailed on the SS Constitution in 1960 to live in Barcelona, I took my Brownie camera with me and she took the bigger camera which I also used. We both photographed our trips through N. Africa and Europe. Pictures were always the possessions that meant the most to me as a child.

Master Musicians of Jajouka (1989) approaching The Rolling Stones for the recording "Continental Drift" on the Steel Wheels record. / Photo by Cherie Nutting

What do you learn about yourself from the travels, photography and music?
From travel I understand and accept many points of view. I also am addicted to the adventure and the story I find in each trip and I love the feeling of freedom while on the road. From Photography I see my way and hold on to memories that are important for the story to be told. From some music I find my passion either to dance the night away or slip into a slow moving trance.


From whom have you have learned the most secrets about the image, music …and life?
Firstly I learned about image and music and life, from my mother who was a dancer and model. I also learned much from my father who as I said worked in the Advertising world. Artists and ad men and writers were always around drinking martinis as I grew up. Dad also taught me about being competent and safe living in the wild forests of Maine where he was born and where we had a cottage. My grandfather was a well-known political writer in Boston and both he and my Dad always took photos. My grand dad had his own darkroom. Pictures and writing and dance were part of my daily life in early childhood but Davey Crockett was my first hero and influenced my outlook on life. As an only child, fantasy was my playmate and adventures my youthful goal. Until I was about 12 years old, I was sure that I was a boy and so my heroes were often men.
Traveling with my mother was an important influence in my life. We lived like well-off vagabonds for yrs. Later travel became a way of life. I needed to do it to be happy. I attended Marymount School in Barcelona Spain. The RSHM nuns taught me about the magic in life and of having a passion for what I did as I lived. One nun, who was also a painter, taught me to be an artist and told me that creativity was the key to living with real happiness. She left the convent in the 60s and died in a train crash however. But she believed in me at age 11 and that was important for me at the time. But as an adult it was Paul Bowles and Bachir Attar who most influenced me as an artist.


Paul Bowles with Bachir Attar and the Master Musicians of Jajouka / Photo by Cherie Nutting

How do you describe your philosophy about the image, music and life?
The image stops time. It is the first primordial thought. We are here. Music is pre - image...It’s vibrations form both the image and all parallel realities...... Life is a result of all these interactions....Maybe this does not make sense the way I describe it....I am not a scientist but it is how I see the Universe.


How did the idea for Yesterday's Perfume come about?
In 1978 A friend gave me a book with a message inside. “This book was written for you” it read. The book was “The Sheltering Sky” by Paul Bowles. My friend had been right. This book meant everything to me and I carried it on all of my future journeys...A few years later I had re occurring crazy dreams of birds smashing into my right forehead with fire all around me and knives. For some reason I decided to write to Paul Bowles about these dreams and how I felt it was in my destiny that we should meet. I sent him 2 self-portraits. One of my feminine side named “Alma” and the other of my tom boy masculine nature named “Scout”. (Paul later named me “Jerez de La Frontera”) He wrote back right away suggesting that I visit him in Tangier. This was the beginning of a time of friendship that continued until his death in 1999.So this is where the story started. I followed the trail of dreams and visual signs and omens which led to my photographing and writing everything down. This became “Yesterday’s Perfume” published in 2000. However that is not the end of the story...From that distant episode the story continues in the present time. The sequel of “Yesterday’s Perfume” one might say, is still going on. This story overlaps as I have spent 24 years with Bachir Attar and The Master Musicians of Jajouka. 1988 to 2012.......and onward...Bachir and I spent many years with Paul but we also collaborated on many projects and continue to do so now.

Paul Bowles at his apartment / Photo by Cherie Nutting

 How do you describe Paul Bowles’ philosophy of life? What characterize Paul Bowles bohemian way of life?
Paul was a very complicated person. Gore Vidal sent me a letter concerning my book “Yesterday’s Perfume”. He wrote “You got what wascatchable” about my book with Paul. Bowles normally hid his emotions. 1 tear from Paul’s eye meant a flood of crying for most people. He did not speak directly but one had to listen very carefully to the spaces - in - between his words or actions. He was not always easy to read, especially if you did not know him very very well. His philosophy?  Well he did always say as I said above “Everything just gets worse”. He was an atheist yet he believed in the “Other” I would say that he was spiritual.
He was an artist and does a true artist have a special philosophy? Or does an artist watch and reflect what he observes without judgment? Paul was fearless in his approach to life. He could be very kind. He had empathy for humanity and gave a lot of his time to others. I know that he hated to be labeled as “this way” or “that”.... “I am here” he would often say when asked about his own philosophy. As a bohemian? I am not sure what that means. He did not associate himself with the BEAT Generation. He did not live inside any system. He was a rebel. He was completely authentic yet undefinable.


Which memory from Paul Bowles makes you smile?
When he placed an ancient mask in front of his face, lowered it, and then kissed me for the first time.

Paul Bowles / Photo by Cherie Nutting

What is the “feel” you miss most nowadays from Paul Bowles? What advice Bowles has given to you?
As I sit in his apartment right now, I still feel his presence. I can’t process that he is gone but it seems that he is only out of town. Some of his things are still here. I guess that he will always be in my heart and may always feel him there. But is different. I no longer have someone to write long letters to when I am away and no one to confide in or laugh with about Moroccan and American ways which always gave us great entertainment. I miss playing tricks on him with Mrabet and laughing til my stomach hurt. But I still feel him. In my memory he is here. Sadly though, I can no longer put my arms around him and kiss him good night. I miss that a lot.


What MOTTO of Paul Bowles you would like to stay forever?
“Everything just gets worse”


What's the legacy of all these Paul Bowles’ legendary bohemian adventures? Mostly spiritually.
I don’t know how to answer that question. I hope that his work will continue to excite people for many generations.
I think that his observations about European, Moroccan and Islamic cultures are valuable to all of us both in Paul’s era and also in modern times.

Mick Jagger and Bachir Attar with The Master Musicians of Jajouka recording "Continental Drift" 1989 in Tangier / Photo by Cherie Nutting

 Do you think that Master Musicians of Jajouka’s music comes? What characterize the life in Jajouka village?
I think the music of The Master Musicians of Jajouka began before history but some say it came in the time of Mohammed. William Burroughs called Jajouka “The 4000 yr old Rock and Roll band”...So I would simply say that it is ancient music.
There is a myth a describing the birth of the music. It was brought to the shepherd Attar while sleeping in the Cave in Jajouka...It is the story of Boujeloud or Bujelud...The Father of Skins and Aisha Quandisha. It is the celebration of ancient rites of fertility. This is a long story but you can see it in Marc Hurtado's new film “Jajouka - Something good comes to you” which will appear in the Marseille FID film Festival July 5 and 7th 2012. Bachir plays the star “Attar”.  (I will make this exact re info) Jajouka is a small village, though many outsiders have moved in so they are not all original Attars. In 1980 they started to have Government records so many newcomers used the name Attar even if they were not a part of the original Attar family.
Many families live there but still it is not a very big village yet. Recently we have a road so now cars can easily climb the hill. When I first lived in Jajouka we had to take donkeys loaded with our gear and food and ourselves up to the village. I always remember riding up at night with a boy holding a lantern and the shadows of the mules’ ears on the earth in front of me going back and forth as we trotted towards the village. We; the Attars, eat at around 11P.M and go to sleep in the early A.M if the musicians decide to jam all night. Some nights are like that. Others are quiet and everyone is with their families. In the old days it was a constant party and all the villagers arrived for food and music and laughter. When Bachir could no longer financially support food for all the villagers’ things became quieter. Bachir, now not quite so young, has an heir to the music. His son Salahadin Attar will both go to school and study the music from his father. Daily life consists of farming for most families. The Master Musicians of Jajouka do not normally farm much.
The women rise at dawn so they can make bread before the children arise. The men and women tend the sheep and plow the land. Most women collect firewood and they often look like rows of moving trees marching home framed by the red horizon.

Salahadin Attar, Bachir's son and heir to the music in the next generation of Master Musicians of Jajouka / Photo by Cherie Nutting

 Why did you think that Master Musicians of Jajouka continued to generate such a devoted following?
Because they are MASTERS. The music is primordial. Even very small children are provoked by it and they dance. Babies clap. It is the “4000 year old Rock and Roll band” says Burroughs. It is timeless. And the music is special. It is passed from father to son from the family Attar. Those who become Masters are few. They start at the age of 4 and they did not go to school. Some try to copy this music but they can’t. But times are changing and the children are going to school. We hope to have a new generation of Masters. Salahadin Attar, Bachir’s son will hopefully keep the music going into the next generation. Re followers: There are those who “get it” like those who love Paul Bowles’ writings....They are fans...devout followers...It touches their souls I guess.


Which is the most interesting period in your life and why?
Three periods were of special influence in my life: First spending summers with my parents in Maine. We had to go by boat as there were no roads round this lake, nor electricity. We fished and I learned to live in the wilds of Maine in the 1950s.This prepared me for my destiny to be with Bachir Attar in Jajouka. Second was my trip on the S.S. Constitution in 1960 with my mother. We were on our way leaving N.Y. to live in Barcelona Spain. We stopped in Madeira (Paul was there at the same time!) Then we set port in Morocco. Later we lived in Spain under Franco. This prepared me for my travels. But the most important and interesting time of my life of course was the time I spent with Paul Bowles. He was my hero and then became a great love in my heart and influenced my work. I met my second hero in Paul’s apartment. It was Bachir Attar, leader of The Master Musicians of Jajouka. Soon we were married in 1988. Now there is a new story which is actually a continuation of my “Yesterdays Perfume” story with Paul. I guess it goes on without least for now.


Which was the best moment of Cherie’s travels and which was the worst?
The best moment of my travels was coming across the Atlantic in 1960 and photographing my first mountain tipped with the light of a golden sunrise...just off the coast of Madeira on the SS Constitution.
The worst...1980 - It was 1 month after John Lennon was killed and I was wearing a pin with his image. It was in a San Francisco phone booth where I was shot at 3x by a sniper. A shot grazed my jacket. The second shot made a hole in the glass. With the 3rd shot shattered the booth and it was demolished. But I was untouched. I ran zig - zag in a 50s cowboy movie fashion, to the awaiting car and we took off. It was not scary but it shocked me. I took it as a sign and indeed it was an omen for things to come. But that is another story.


What is Cherie Nutting’s DREAM…and what is her nightmare?
My dream - before my demise; is to finish my own personal artwork and help Bachir Attar and The Master Musicians of Jajouka keep their music alive until the world stops. My nightmare... failure to be a warrior when I face the mirror for the last time.




Lisbon 2007  The Master Musicians of Jajouka led by Bachir Attar and Cherie Nutting / Photo by Cherie Nutting

If you go back to the past what things you would do better and what things you would a void to do again?
Better? Most everything.  Avoid?  Unnecessary Heartbreak.


Do you know why the Tangier is connected to the Bohemian life at 50s & what characterize the way of life in Tangier?
Paul Bowles came first in the 1930s.He was intoxicated by Morocco right away and kept returning to Tangier after his travels. This was before the Bohemian trend of the 1950s. However Paul invited many friends and artists during the 1950s and later. Brion Gysin came to visit Paul. Burroughs arrived. Ornette Coleman came as well.  Gysin brought in the 60s element re The Rolling Stones in goes on and on...Too many to list in an interview. I think that these artists loved the beauty of the country. They also probably loved the mystery, the magic one feels when being here. The exotic atmosphere tweaks one’s fantasies and creativity. Life is always a novel in Tangier whether one writes about it or not. Mostly however, I think too that they enjoyed the freedom from philosophies and vacant lifestyles of the West…or rather the USA. But maybe that is only my opinion and not theirs.

Playing with Ornette Coleman in Munich 1992 at Arts Projekt 92 / Photo by Cherie Nutting

Which is the similarity in “feeling” between Bohemians, 50s BEATS, 60s HIPPIES, and 80s avant-garde that led to Morocco?
Freedom, magic, ecstasy, creativity, danger, FUN, alternative lifestyle, and more.....Morocco is an extraordinarily magical spot even as it becomes more modern. For me, Morocco is my golden treasure chest. My friends in America say that when I am away from Morocco I am like a fish out of water. This is true.

The Master Musicians of Jajouka led by Bachir  Attar

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